To Dr. Hla (r)

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On 6 Apr 1995 TMYINT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> From: Tun Myint <TMYINT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> From:	PO3::"burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx" "Conference 'reg.burma'"  6-APR-1995 12:03:51.50
> To:	Recipients of burmanet-l <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC:	
> Subj:	Re: FutureWork and Burma
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> From: "Timothy Hla"  <hlatim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "Timothy Hla"  <hlatim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Soon Wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > I am new to this discussion. I am a chinese decent from Burma. I think 
> > the way Mr.Tun Myint describe is extremely unfair as chinese and indians 
> > in Burma are all opportunitist and they are earning money in unfair way. 
> > Also such as"100% Burmese". I think this is racist. 
> 		{...................}
> Dr. Hla Wrote;
> *I totally agree with Soon in describing the previous comments from others in 
> *this letter as bordering on racist ideology, perhaps coupled with tremendous 
> *naivete of the modern world.  I think that it is entirely wrong to say that 
> *some people are 100% Burmese and that they are different from the Chinese and 
> *Indian immigrants.
> 	Dear Dr. Hla:
> 	Welcome to this discussion and thank you for your participation.  I
> hope you have read the previous three posting of mine concerning this issue.
> Again, I have never said in those posting that Burmese are different from
> Indians and Chinese immigrants in term of deserving basic rights in Burma. I 
> said mostly Chinese immigrants enjoy their live in Burma by doing unfair way of
> making money. I pointed such as the penetration in northern Burma currently. If
>
Hi Mr. Tun Myint,

Here in the above paragraph you are generalizing some of the Chinese 
immigrant who have involved in illigal business. Although there are some 
Chinese doing such busniess but almost all ethnic are involved too. Are 
you so sure that there are no so called (By you) 100% Burmese involved?? 
I believe there a lots. Why should only Chinese be exclusively mentioned and 
blamed for the suffering of all Burmese people. You think it is fair? As I 
said in reply to you this is a manipulation. I don't know what is the 
underlying motive?

 you were ever in Burma in Rangoon, you might had found SOME Chinese in Lathar 
> Lan  and Thein Gyi Zay (Thein Gyi Market) sold goods to people differently. If 
> you speak Chinese, you will get different price and if you don't you will get 
> different price. It was not so obvious, only people who curious could know that.
> I know that because my brother has a shop in Thein Gyi Zay. I every weekend 
> helped him accounting.  Anyway, my sister-in-law is Chinese-Karen and she knew
> that and she does not like it too.

Hi, 

This is unfortunate that you have to face with this kind of situation. As 
a Chinese I also face the same situation too. In school I was called 
stupid chinese pig. When I worked in rural, I was treated with name 
calling, and racist joke. How about that? Should all those chinese be 
punished because of the event you mentioned. Come on be fair. My time are 
up I  
> 	What do you think the ideology that exist in this case?  How can we not
> let happen such thing in the "future Burma."
>  
> *Most of the immigrants came to Burma 3-4 generations ago and I am 
> *appalled to hear that they are foreigners and that they are out there just to 
> *make money unfairly.  This type of chauvinistic and racist thinking is 
> *responsible for much of the problems that Burma is facing today.  
>  
> 	It is not necessarily true. The main problem today is the war between
> the oppressor and oppressed.
>  
> *Look at the countries with progressive immigration laws such as US;anyone born
> *in the US and all the naturalized US citizens enjoy 100% of the rights of
> *citizenship and are not discriminated in any way. 
>  
> 	Dr. Hla, For the point that I am going to make here, the blame shoud go
> to what you have mentioned "coupled with tremendous naivete of modern world." 
> All nations and nationalities of all nations are trying to preserve their own
> identity and development of their nations. That means they care a group of 
> people who share the same identification as citizens. I here posted this 
> discussion to preserve Burma's identity as a nation of Burma's citizens.  If 
> the world in reality and its nature does not allow the existences of those 
> identities such as American, Chinese, Russian, English or Burmese etc... then 
> we do not have to preserve the identity. We all human and ought to live on the 
> whole world as a coutry. But no leader or no nation would agree to give up the 
> identity of its vision and live like in melting-point.Maybe our grandchildrens'
> days. I would rather like to live like this. But I cannot now. My knowledge and
> my intuition tell me to preserve the identity of my own country. 
> 	Therefore, the core point that I want to make here is that if you 
> think my point as a "chavaunist and raicist thinking," in the way in which you 
> mean as a hard-liner, then you are totally WRONG. I am realist sometimes and
> liberal sometimes. However, what I will never change is that I love the land I 
> was born on and I love the identity of Burma. I was born to preserve thme as 
> other people of different countries do.
>  
> *Look how much immigrants have and are contributing to the US society.
> *If countries like Burma had more progressive and smart immigration laws as well
> *as social thinking, they would be much more advanced and be able to enjoy the 
> *fruits of the immigrant's labors.
>  
> Yes, I know those points you made. That is why I first in my first posting
> tried to find the laws or policy that can help to treat Burma's citizens justly
> when it becomes democratic state (I am afraid to use "Burmese citizens" because
> as you see my posting was differently intepreted and go to the other direction
> rather than I expected).  I want to get the discussion into the direction that 
> you parallel with U.S immigration situation and its policy.  
> 	Here I have a question, will you agree or do nothing on the
> situation that is happening right now in Burma under brutal oppressive regime?
> That is many Chinese immigrants currently with the wealth they have in China or
> eslsewhere are getting into Burma and cooperate with SLORC and buying land of
> those local citizens while those local citizens are relocated by FORCE and
> FORCE to abandon their land, by the SLORC. 
>  
> *As far as I am concerned, every one born in Burma should be considered in 
> *total as a Burmese citizen.  Children born to Burmese citizens living abroad 
> *and spouses of Burmese citizens should also be given the choice of becoming 
> *Burmese citizens if they so choose. 
> *	Tim
>  
> 	I 100% agree with you on that point. I have never said or wrote those
> people who are foreigners born in Burma don't deserve citizenship. I have never
> said to deny those citizenship rights that any human who live in this globe 
> can become a citizen of any country by the law of those country drawn by the 
> consent of people.
> 	Thank you,
> 	I wish you healthy and Happy
> 	Tun Myint
> 	Indiana University 
> //////////After all, Burma's citizens will decide what they want\\\\\\\\\\\\
> *Timothy Hla, Ph.D.
> *Scientist II/ Associate Professor
> *Department of Molecular Biology
> *Holland Laboratory, American Red Cross
> *15601 Crabbs Branch Way
> *Rockville, MD 20855
> *ph: 301-738-0567
> *fx: 301-738-0465
> *e-mail: hlatim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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