The Burmese Abroad [Part 2]Re:Recen (r)

[kzy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Hi enigma1003@xxxxxxxxxxx,
	If someone call for personal challange, he or she should reveal
his or her real identity.  Speaking of cleaness, I don't have any problem
with it.  It doesn't matter so much here.  Someone may have made mistakes
in the past, the most important thing is that he should become right and
do properly from now on.  What I am asking for and writing for is to get
that promise and to see the change.  I don't care Maung Maung or NCGUB or
anyone, as long as they change themselves, it is acceptable.  Only thing
is their promises and prove with work.  That is.  
	One thing to think about - when all say the wealth and misconduct
of Ne Win, SLORC, and SPDC leaders, is that personal attack or pointing
out their misconduct?  Then when pointing out someone who is in position
and who makes mistakes, should it be defined as personal attack?  If it is
defined as personal attack, how can people ask one to change?  If pointing
out anyone for misconducts is defined as personal attack, I have seen so
many people including those who are saying now have posted or said
personal attacks on Ne Win and SPDC leaders.  I don't feel pity for them
for that personal attacks, but if all define personal attack by that means
all should refrain from such thing.  If not, I have to ask what are you
talking about.  

Yours sincerely,
Kyaw Zay Ya



On 10 Jun 1998 enigma1003@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi everybody!
>           I was busy travelling so I got a bit out of touch with 
> Burmanet, an auspicious forum from which we can discuss, debate and find 
> solutions.
> 
> Here is Part 2
> 
> It's good that we debate and argue freely on the BurmaNet.But now that 
> BurmaNet editor has to warn people because it's been too much junk
> full of accusations going on here.Accusations without fatual evidence 
> fly all over and no wonder Burma is still ruled by the military you hate 
> very much.You seem to get lost.The enemy is SPDC and you're fighting NLD 
> members and NCGUB staff.Well,aren't they the representatives elected by 
> the people?Have you really found the facts or data they abused these 
> funds?maybe you people are jealous these people are getting so 
> successful.But you're unemployed and screwed up.
> 
> One question to ask you!How clean are you to correct these people?Let's 
> suppose they are corrupt.But are you clean yourself?
> 
> For Example,Daw Aye Aye Soe Win!How clean are you?Let's ask her the 
> detailed reports of the checks she deposited into her account for 
> ABSDF.How much did she collect the funds from the decent Burmese people 
> in New York ,those who are desperate for an endorsement for their asylum 
> applications?What percentage of the funds goes to ABSDF account in 
> Bangkok?What percentage goes into your own pocket?Who knows it?Ask her 
> these questions too.Nobody does!What about  the ABSDF stamps she's been 
> using to endorse the asylum applications to receive money from the 
> applicants?
> 
> See?Everybody's so selfish and they think they are good.maybe Maung 
> Maung puts more into his pocket. There's a Burmese saying " If you eat 
> one onion,that's onion and if you eat two onions, it's still 
> onion".Damned funny!
> 
> Maybe you should put yourself into these corrupt people's shoes,and you 
> won't care any more.Just think a moment and regard yourself as Maung 
> Maung.Will you accuse yourself of being corrupt?
> 
> "The grape you can't reach has to be sour for you".That's the point.SPDC 
> is for sure happy you guys are doing this.What a favor!
> 
> I don't blame BurmaNetEditor for the proper warning.
> 
> Take care,everybody.
> 
> True Color Shows!
> 
> Enigma1003
> 
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> >Reply-To: Conference "reg.burma" <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >From: ShweZthar@xxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Burmese Labor Theorist and White Money
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> >From where do they come ? Who are they ? Where are they going ?
> >
> >Needless to say, there was a moment for numerous unions and 
> associations
> >emerging at the peak of the popular uprisings of 1988 in Burma. Prior 
> to the
> >military coup on September 18, 1988, very few of such inflated unions, 
> except
> >the All Burma Federation of Student Unions, were representative of what 
> they
> >had stood for by title.
> >
> >Insofar as the political parties inside Burma have approached a way of 
> saving
> >their nation from the Burmese military, they have become complete 
> victims of
> >SPDC because they live so close to the most brutal military regime on 
> earth.
> >However, certain individuals who shamelessly call themselves leaders of 
> the
> >democracy struggle of Burma have found it so easy to make money in the 
> name of
> >Burma. Ko Maung Maung aks Pyi Thit Nyunt Wai would write a labor theory 
> that I
> >assume has helped him get quick, easy but too much money for his 
> personal
> >gains.
> >
> >In fact, he seems to have no strong political ideology except the fact 
> he
> >outsmarts other Burmese politicians, activists and revolutionaries when 
> it
> >comes to asking for grants, by wearing the Cloak of Labor  to convince 
> the
> >funders that he is the BIG BROTHER who has been watching all the 
> progress of
> >democracy movement and other related activities inside Burma. But he 
> knew he
> >was lying to the funders and non-Burmese people who support our 
> struggle for
> >democracy in Burma every time he assumed, as the leader of FTUB, an air 
> of
> >importance he did not feel.
> >
> >It is so tragic that individual sacrifices for and committment to the 
> Burmese
> >democratic struggle have been overlooked and in some instances 
> transformed
> >deliberately into the political products of the non-existent 
> organization,
> >namely Federation of Trade Unions, Burma. I do believe that Ko Maung 
> Maung,
> >leader of the non-existent labor organization(FTUB), would provide a 
> full
> >explanation of why esay money from the white comes to him in his book 
> on
> >Burmese Labor Theory of Value and Me. In his book, he will uncover the 
> process
> >of political metamorphosis for younger generations to read and become 
> aware of
> >the political beasts, and I think if Ko Maung Maung would not omit any 
> of his
> >cheats and lies on the Burmese political stage overseas, his political
> >metamorphosis would be one tenth as much worth reading as Frenz Kefka's
> >metamorphosis. Anyway, it is quite obvious that Ko Maung Maung has no
> >intention of forming a labor party similar to the labor parties in 
> Europe once
> >Burma achieves democracy one day. In case he is inclined to do so, I 
> would
> >definitely want to request him to sing to the younger generation the 
> song
> >"International."
> >
> >The Cloak of Labor  worn by Ko Maung Maung is large enough to cover 
> himself,
> >not large enough to cover the eyes of truth-loving people.These 
> truth-loving
> >people are not ignorant of world history as well as what factors and 
> forces
> >have been contributing to the democratic movement of Burma. Anyway let 
> the
> >fake one(s) play and dance with the only tune they know.
> >
> >What is written below is a little poem of satire, dedicated to those 
> Burmese
> >freedom fighters who I assume would like to help launch the Fifth
> >International with all their hearts---if they had a chance. But they 
> will not
> >wear the cloak of labor, because all the way they have carried the 
> hearts of
> >the suppressed, which they believe is enough.
> >
> >Hijack
> >
> >Giving one man all the rights,
> >Has labor history left the right,
> >At the cost of our fight ?
> >
> >Left, right
> >Left, right
> >The ones that are left
> >Are the ones that are right.
> >
> >aye aye soe win
> >
> >
> >-  
> >
> >
> 
> 
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