soe than History

[susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx]

yes soe than - i know what he was referrng to, this is very important event 
in burmese history - but i think you miss point. if you want to be effective 
you must really deeply understand burma, not just have bit and piece from 
"trivia site".

for example. what is meaning of the suppayalat massacre? in first place, 
this was the common thing in pre-colonial time. all kings would get rid of 
potential rivals. as you say, preferred method was to put in red velvet sack 
and beat to death, one blow across throat, so that royal blood would not be 
spilled. thibaw became king partly because mindon made mistake, he named 
successor and other rivals killed him (successor); so this is deep part of 
burmese political thinking: ELIMINATE ALL RIVALS. otherwise, constant 
fighting. must understand this! spdc think very much like kings! maybe you 
have noticed that all rivals eliminated, except for ASSK who is kept in 
little box?

second point: previsous to suppayalat, other kings also eliminate rivals. 
but nobody say anything until suppayalat. why? because of presence of many 
foreigners in mandalay in 1880's! very important! the massacre was reported 
all around world, big stink for king thibaw! so when british take mandalay 
in 1885 they can say, 'oh king thibaw a bad man he kill all these people, we 
do burma big favor by conquering him." good colonial propaganda.

so - another lesson for now, you see! if no foregners in burma, then no one 
knows what goes on! this is why i think tourist boycott is bad idea (sorry 
daw suu). if no one sees, no one knows.

ok -- soe than, you see my point about knowing history? burma not invented 
in 1988! very complicated country! cannot learn from stupid "trivia site."

trivia site is for trivia person.

susu


>From: "Soe Than" <c04061998@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: History
>Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 07:06:40 PDT
>
>I think he is referring to some incidents.
>
>It is true about Queen Suuphayalatt getting rid of many of her half-bros 
>and
>half-sis.  Her hubby, King Thibaw was her half-brother as well.  They did 
>it
>within three days of the festival in the palace and since royal blood could
>not be shed on the ground soil by tridition, they put them in bags alive 
>and
>beat the hell of of them to death and had them drown in the nearby river.
>
>I certinaly hope SPDC ain't putting people in the bags alive.. or are they?
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Sue Huang" <susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: dmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx,
>burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: History
>Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:42:15 GMT
>
>you know your burmese history from trivia sites! most stupid thing i ever
>heard. go to library and study. not possible to think about burma unless 
>you
>know what has happened. read everything, all writers: cady, furnivall,
>tinker, etc even if you do not agree with them. at least be educated.
>
>trivia site. i am disgusted.
>
>susu
>
>>From: ATC MILLER <dmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "'burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx'" <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>"'burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx'" <burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: History
>>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:34:41 +0900
>>
>>I found this in a trivia site, it looks like SPDC has been studying their
>>history and applying it to modern times.
>>D Miller
>>
>>
>>Queen Supayalat of Burma ordered about 100 of her husband's
>>relatives clubbed to death. She did this to ensure the throne
>>to her husband.  Okay, I guess that's one way to handle those
>>pesky in-law problems.
>>
>>(Source: ISAAC ASIMOV'S BOOK OF FACTS)
>>http://mailbits.com/Trivia/Source/24.htm
>>
>>
>
>
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