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Subject: Re: A direct political action ,Rebels win, Workers lose

>From: "moezaw aung" <bagan1040@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: A direct political action ,Rebels win, Workers lose
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:46:18 PDT
>
>None of these worthy writers would argue that violence and revolution are
>unwarranted or indefensible when all other paths for political change have
>been exhausted.
>Wat cha nal ma call it!
>you like it or not,I would call it, it is a " direct political action"
>mza
>
>>From: "Soe Than" <c04061998@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: Rebels win, Workers lose
>>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:04:19 PDT
>>
>>We are not only talking about just illegal immigrants from Burma but also
>>other many activists as well as NGO's, etc.
>>
>>How the Military Junta is behaving inside Burma, I am sure you will agree
>>that the prodemocracy force in Thailand are a little more freer.  Now 
>>their
>>action might have undermined or compromised them with Thai officials
>>looking
>>down on them with the same attitude that all of us are gun waving, hostage
>>taking rebels!!
>>
>>Well, many of us are NOT.
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Htun A. Gyaw" <hag2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "Sue Huang" <susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx>, bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>>burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: Rebels win, Workers lose
>>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:07:06 -0400
>>
>>Do you think the seizure of Embassy only produce ten minutes media
>>attention? Do you think the illegal Burmese workers in BKK are far more
>>important than the people inside Burma? Do you have an ability to made 
>>this
>>ten minutes deal? if not, do not insult the people who have guts.
>>
>>Htun Aung Gyaw
>>
>>
>>
>>At 02:00 AM 10/07/1999 +0000, Sue Huang wrote:
>> >hello??? EVERYBODY lose from this stupid embassy attack, indiana.
>>innocent
>> >workers hurt, as you say. crackdown on ABSDF and other groups in BKK has
>> >been announced by thai government. vigorous students made nld look like
>> >terror-sponsoring group. any hope for early release of rachel goldwyn
>> >probably gone. bangkok embassy security now upgraded, meaning any 
>>SERIOUS
>> >long-term occupation, seizure of files etc may no longer be possible.
>>border
>> >closed making prices go up in rangoon. whole movement now looks
>> >disorganized, no leadership. credibility has been lost.
>> >
>> >name one positive accomplishment. answer: ten minutes of media 
>>attention.
>> >big deal.
>> >
>> >so, hooray for vigorous students. have guns instead of brains.
>> >
>> >susu
>> >
>> >>From: Indiana <bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
>> >>Subject: Rebels win, Workers lose
>> >>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:24:08 +0700
>> >>
>> >>Just a note of reality, here amid all the euphoria about getting the
>> >>world's attention on Burma by a show of physical force in our host's
>> >>capital city.
>> >>
>> >>By some estimates, there are one million undocumented Burmese workers 
>>in
>> >>Thailand, about half of whom work in Bangkok.  For those of you who 
>>dont
>> >>know, these undocumented workers are habitually ripped off by their
>>company
>> >>owners, abused by their foremen, and harassed by the Thai police.
>>Without
>> >>state papers, they have no legal rights at all.  Their children are
>>often
>> >>born on the construction work sites, and later they play in the dirt 
>>and
>> >>the junk piles while their parents mix cement, bend re-bar, and carry
>> >>bricks, for half the wages of a Thai laborer.  The only reason these
>>people
>> >>are in Bangkok, far from their towns and villages in Burma, is simply
>> >>because it is even worse for them at home.
>> >>
>> >>I had spent about six months working with a group of Burmese students 
>>to
>> >>set up a primary school for these kids at a construction site in
>>Bangkok.
>> >>We researched the situation, wrote a project proposal and prepared a
>>budget
>> >>which included books, paper, and lunch for the kids.  We sent it out to
>> >>friends and organizations who we thought might be interested in funding
>>the
>> >>school.  We finally heard that it was going to be approved last week,
>>just
>> >>before the embassy story hit the headlines.
>> >>
>> >>The students who were going to run this school all live at the Maneeloy
>> >>"safe camp".  But now it looks like easy movement to and from the camp
>>is
>> >>over (see story that follows).  If they cannot leave the camp for
>>Bangkok,
>> >>there will be no school for the workers' children.  And from the sounds
>>the
>> >>Thai government is making, life is going to get even harder for the
>>workers
>> >>themselves.
>> >>
>> >>I know that everyone wants to go back to Burma.  I know that the
>>continued
>> >>presence of the junta there is a disgrace to human society.  I know how
>> >>frustrated everyone is with the lack of movement in the international
>> >>community.  I was also glad to see something "real" happen, although I
>>know
>> >>that violence is never elegant, nor can it be a solid foundation on
>>which
>> >>to build anything long-lasting.
>> >>
>> >>But with no collective planning, no coordinated follow-up, no 
>>long-range
>> >>strategy to use this "aberration" to press our demands home to the
>> >>international community, it is the weakest people, as usual, who will
>>bear
>> >>the brunt of the hostile fall-out that violence always breeds.  I know
>>in
>>a
>> >>very personal way what a loss of this school means to the children,
>>their
>> >>parents, and to the entire illegal worker population of Bangkok.
>> >>
>> >>If the embassy attack gets them all back home to a peaceful Burma
>>tomorrow,
>> >>I will be cheering along with the rest.  But if it only makes 
>>conditions
>> >>worse for them here in Bangkok, then it is they who will be paying the
>> >>long-term cost for the Vigorous Burmese Student Warriors moment of
>>glory.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >SHAN HERALD AGENCY FOR NEWS
>> >> >October 6, 1999
>> >> >
>> >> >Thailand wants Myanmar students out of country after hostage crisis
>> >> >
>> >> >     BANGKOK, Oct 6 (AFP) - Thailand said Wednesday it planned to
>>round
>> >>up
>> >> >exiled Myanmar students and send them to a third country, after five
>> >> >student gunmen took almost 40 people hostage at Yangon's embassy 
>>here.
>> >>In
>> >> >the wake of the 25-hour hostage crisis, which ended with the gunmen
>> >>fleeing
>> >> >Bangkok by helicopter Saturday, Thai authorities met to discuss ways
>>to
>> >> >prevent more international terrorism on Thai soil. The National
>>Security
>> >> >Council (NSC) said it would round up exiled students inside Thailand,
>> >>check
>> >> >their status, and prosecute those found to have entered the country
>> >> >illegally. All students would then be transferred to the Maneeloy
>>holding
>> >> >centre near the Thai-Myanmar Border, and the United Nations High
>> >> >Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) would be asked to quickly transfer
>>them
>> >> >to a third country.
>> >> >
>> >> >     "We will consult with the UNHCR to send an estimated 2,800
>>Myanmar
>> >> >students to another country," Khachadpai Burusapatana, NSC
>> >> >secretary-general told reporters after the meeting top security
>>agencies.
>> >> >
>> >> >     The UNHCR said it had not been informed of the move yet but 
>>would
>> >> >continue to apply long-standing policies on resettlement.
>> >> >     "In accordance with established practice we will continue to
>>promote
>> >> >resettlement of those refugees who qualify for third country
>> >>resettlement,"
>> >> >a UNHCR spokesman said.
>> >> >
>> >> >     Interior ministry spokesman Veerachai Naewboonian said students
>>who
>> >> >were not accepted by a third country would be repatriated to
>> >> >Myanmar.  Veerachai said Thailand had already moved to ensure 
>>students
>> >>were
>> >> >confined to the Maneeloy holding centre in Ratchburi province.
>> >> >
>> >> >     "Authorities will step up rules and regulations at the Maneeloy
>> >>holding
>> >> >centre," Veerachai said.
>> >> >     Despite the crackdown on exiled students, Bangkok denied claims
>>by
>> >> >Yangon that refugee camps inside Thailand were being used as 
>>terrorist
>> >> >bases.
>> >> >     "On this issue Thailand has a clear cut policy that we will not
>> >>allow
>> >> >any groups of terrorists to operate against neigbouring countries 
>>from
>> >> >inside our country," Khachadpai said.
>> >> >
>> >> >     He said Thailand's policy of sheltering 100,000 refugees along
>>the
>> >> >Thai-Myanmar border would remain unchanged, but all illegal Myanmar
>> >>workers
>> >> >would be repatriated.
>> >> >
>> >> >     "We have extended permission for 80,000 to 90,000 Myanmar
>>workers,
>> >>but
>> >> >those who are not granted an extension will be prosecuted for
>>violating
>> >> >immigration laws," he said. In addition, Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai
>>has
>> >> >instructed police to tighten security at 65 embassies and 10
>>consulates
>> >>in
>> >> >Bangkok. Thai Special Branch Police deputy commissioner Major General
>> >> >Yothin Matthayanun said his agency would focus on improving security
>>for
>> >> >diplomatic missions of neighbouring countries and nations embroiled 
>>in
>> >> >political disputes, such as Indonesia.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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