Urggggggggggggg (r)

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URRRRRR...poor mannnnnn..

I give u a peice of tissue to wipe out your tear.
Man..stand strong on your own view..OK? Keep urgue with any1 who has 
different ideas. This is free world (NOT INSIDE BURMA).

PP


>From: "Soe Than" <c04061998@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Urggggggggggggg
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:52:42 PDT
>
>Ok - here it is:
>
>"kha mya toe <You guys> tayork nae tayork ko <each other> LU yeh ATHAT   
>than-pho <a value of mans' life> ma sheeh aung <without it> ATHIN AHHH-DAMA 
>ne' <with violence> MYAUT pay nay tar koo <encouraging>.  Kha mya toe <You 
>guys> khoung aye-aye ne' <with your mind> sing sar gya bar kymar <please 
>think>.  Jondaw ko pote chah like yin <By putting me down> kha myar toe 
>ajoe ma myut par boo <you have nothing to gain by it>.  Jondaw ka <I am> 
>ayay ma gyi te <not important> lu kalay tayork par. <youth>"
>
>Sorry.  My English is not as good as my German - and my Burmese is as bad.  
>Lucky my folks made me go learn Burmese.   <Also helps they talk in Burmese 
>@ home!>  Anyway, I'm off to Köln for the weekend before I get myself in 
>trouble.  God knows that I will lose the battle if I argue with those 
>people with GUNs and violent temper/nature/tendency.  Hehehehehehe
>
>By the way Ama Susu - I am sure you have heard of a Burmese proverb - 
>"don't you go around fighting with a mad dog because you will become a mad 
>dog yourself!"
>
>Have a great weekend everyone!  =-]
>
>with metta,
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Dawn Star <dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: Soe Than <c04061998@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>CC: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Rebels puffing
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 22:13:48 +0100
>
>dear Soe Than, would you please translate into english, my language
>skills are not so sharp, thank you, ds
>
>Soe Than wrote:
> >
> > That is because until last week, these "armed rebels" did not do 
>anything
> > silly.
> >
> > And with you guys - kha mya toe tayork nae tayork ko LU yeh ATHAT  
>than-pho
> > ma sheeh aung ATHIN AHHH-DAMA ne' MYAUT pay nay tar koo.  Kha mya toe 
>khoung
> > aye-aye ne' sing sar gya bar kymar.  Jondaw ko pote chah like yin kha 
>myar
> > toe ajoe ma myut par boo.  Jondaw ka ayay ma gyi te lu kalay tayork par.
> >
> > Very sad..!
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Freedom Fighters" <galon99@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Rebels puffing
> > Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:25:48 GMT
> >
> > Dear all activists
> > During last week, I found that soe than and susuhuang started posting on
> > Burmanet.  Until now, I found that they only posted against all 
>activists.
> > They are trying to distract us from our main theme.  They mostly use 
>filthy
> > words to provoke us angry and response angrily.  So we may lose our main
> > theme.  It has no benefits to discuss with them.  Don't waste your time.
> > Let's discuss among our devoted activists for restoration of democracy 
>and
> > human rights in Burma.  Don't pay attention to their barking words.  
>Don't
> > response to okkar, soe than, and susuhuang.
> > Be ware of Counterrevolutionary forces.
> > galon
> >
> > P.S
> > I would like to remind Okkar, Soe Than, Susuhuang
> > that you are using the Burmanet which is sponsored by ABSDF.  If you are 
>in
> > Burma and you are talking about SPDC like this, you will be in big 
>trouble.
> >
> > >From: "Sue Huang" <susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: hag2@xxxxxxxxxxx, susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx, bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > >burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: Rebels puffing
> > >Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:12:24 GMT
> > >
> > >oh HAG you are all hot air. puff puff puff.
> > >
> > >stop puffing and look at facts about embassy.
> > >
> > >they demand release of political prisoners -- none released
> > >
> > >they demand nld-spdc dialog -- no dialog
> > >
> > >they demand parliament to be recognized - no parliament
> > >
> > >they demand helicopter -- ok, get helicopter, fly away and never mind 
>about
> > >democracy demands!!!!!
> > >
> > >you call that heros? guts? puff puff puff puff puff
> > >
> > >susu
> > >
> > >>From: "Htun A. Gyaw" <hag2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: "Sue Huang" <susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx>, bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > >>burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
> > >>Subject: Re: Rebels win, Workers lose
> > >>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:07:06 -0400
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Do you think the seizure of Embassy only produce ten minutes media
> > >>attention? Do you think the illegal Burmese workers in BKK are far 
>more
> > >>important than the people inside Burma? Do you have an ability to made
> > >>this
> > >>ten minutes deal? if not, do not insult the people who have guts.
> > >>
> > >>Htun Aung Gyaw
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>At 02:00 AM 10/07/1999 +0000, Sue Huang wrote:
> > >> >hello??? EVERYBODY lose from this stupid embassy attack, indiana.
> > >>innocent
> > >> >workers hurt, as you say. crackdown on ABSDF and other groups in BKK 
>has
> > >> >been announced by thai government. vigorous students made nld look 
>like
> > >> >terror-sponsoring group. any hope for early release of rachel 
>goldwyn
> > >> >probably gone. bangkok embassy security now upgraded, meaning any
> > >>SERIOUS
> > >> >long-term occupation, seizure of files etc may no longer be 
>possible.
> > >>border
> > >> >closed making prices go up in rangoon. whole movement now looks
> > >> >disorganized, no leadership. credibility has been lost.
> > >> >
> > >> >name one positive accomplishment. answer: ten minutes of media
> > >>attention.
> > >> >big deal.
> > >> >
> > >> >so, hooray for vigorous students. have guns instead of brains.
> > >> >
> > >> >susu
> > >> >
> > >> >>From: Indiana <bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
> > >> >>Subject: Rebels win, Workers lose
> > >> >>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:24:08 +0700
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Just a note of reality, here amid all the euphoria about getting 
>the
> > >> >>world's attention on Burma by a show of physical force in our 
>host's
> > >> >>capital city.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>By some estimates, there are one million undocumented Burmese 
>workers
> > >>in
> > >> >>Thailand, about half of whom work in Bangkok.  For those of you who
> > >>dont
> > >> >>know, these undocumented workers are habitually ripped off by their
> > >>company
> > >> >>owners, abused by their foremen, and harassed by the Thai police.
> > >>Without
> > >> >>state papers, they have no legal rights at all.  Their children are
> > >>often
> > >> >>born on the construction work sites, and later they play in the 
>dirt
> > >>and
> > >> >>the junk piles while their parents mix cement, bend re-bar, and 
>carry
> > >> >>bricks, for half the wages of a Thai laborer.  The only reason 
>these
> > >>people
> > >> >>are in Bangkok, far from their towns and villages in Burma, is 
>simply
> > >> >>because it is even worse for them at home.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I had spent about six months working with a group of Burmese 
>students
> > >>to
> > >> >>set up a primary school for these kids at a construction site in
> > >>Bangkok.
> > >> >>We researched the situation, wrote a project proposal and prepared 
>a
> > >>budget
> > >> >>which included books, paper, and lunch for the kids.  We sent it 
>out to
> > >> >>friends and organizations who we thought might be interested in 
>funding
> > >>the
> > >> >>school.  We finally heard that it was going to be approved last 
>week,
> > >>just
> > >> >>before the embassy story hit the headlines.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>The students who were going to run this school all live at the 
>Maneeloy
> > >> >>"safe camp".  But now it looks like easy movement to and from the 
>camp
> > >>is
> > >> >>over (see story that follows).  If they cannot leave the camp for
> > >>Bangkok,
> > >> >>there will be no school for the workers' children.  And from the 
>sounds
> > >>the
> > >> >>Thai government is making, life is going to get even harder for the
> > >>workers
> > >> >>themselves.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I know that everyone wants to go back to Burma.  I know that the
> > >>continued
> > >> >>presence of the junta there is a disgrace to human society.  I know 
>how
> > >> >>frustrated everyone is with the lack of movement in the 
>international
> > >> >>community.  I was also glad to see something "real" happen, 
>although I
> > >>know
> > >> >>that violence is never elegant, nor can it be a solid foundation on
> > >>which
> > >> >>to build anything long-lasting.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>But with no collective planning, no coordinated follow-up, no
> > >>long-range
> > >> >>strategy to use this "aberration" to press our demands home to the
> > >> >>international community, it is the weakest people, as usual, who 
>will
> > >>bear
> > >> >>the brunt of the hostile fall-out that violence always breeds.  I 
>know
> > >>in a
> > >> >>very personal way what a loss of this school means to the children,
> > >>their
> > >> >>parents, and to the entire illegal worker population of Bangkok.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>If the embassy attack gets them all back home to a peaceful Burma
> > >>tomorrow,
> > >> >>I will be cheering along with the rest.  But if it only makes
> > >>conditions
> > >> >>worse for them here in Bangkok, then it is they who will be paying 
>the
> > >> >>long-term cost for the Vigorous Burmese Student Warriors moment of
> > >>glory.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >SHAN HERALD AGENCY FOR NEWS
> > >> >> >October 6, 1999
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Thailand wants Myanmar students out of country after hostage 
>crisis
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     BANGKOK, Oct 6 (AFP) - Thailand said Wednesday it planned to
> > >>round
> > >> >>up
> > >> >> >exiled Myanmar students and send them to a third country, after 
>five
> > >> >> >student gunmen took almost 40 people hostage at Yangon's embassy
> > >>here.
> > >> >>In
> > >> >> >the wake of the 25-hour hostage crisis, which ended with the 
>gunmen
> > >> >>fleeing
> > >> >> >Bangkok by helicopter Saturday, Thai authorities met to discuss 
>ways
> > >>to
> > >> >> >prevent more international terrorism on Thai soil. The National
> > >>Security
> > >> >> >Council (NSC) said it would round up exiled students inside 
>Thailand,
> > >> >>check
> > >> >> >their status, and prosecute those found to have entered the 
>country
> > >> >> >illegally. All students would then be transferred to the Maneeloy
> > >>holding
> > >> >> >centre near the Thai-Myanmar Border, and the United Nations High
> > >> >> >Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) would be asked to quickly 
>transfer
> > >>them
> > >> >> >to a third country.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     "We will consult with the UNHCR to send an estimated 2,800
> > >>Myanmar
> > >> >> >students to another country," Khachadpai Burusapatana, NSC
> > >> >> >secretary-general told reporters after the meeting top security
> > >>agencies.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     The UNHCR said it had not been informed of the move yet but
> > >>would
> > >> >> >continue to apply long-standing policies on resettlement.
> > >> >> >     "In accordance with established practice we will continue to
> > >>promote
> > >> >> >resettlement of those refugees who qualify for third country
> > >> >>resettlement,"
> > >> >> >a UNHCR spokesman said.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     Interior ministry spokesman Veerachai Naewboonian said 
>students
> > >>who
> > >> >> >were not accepted by a third country would be repatriated to
> > >> >> >Myanmar.  Veerachai said Thailand had already moved to ensure
> > >>students
> > >> >>were
> > >> >> >confined to the Maneeloy holding centre in Ratchburi province.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     "Authorities will step up rules and regulations at the 
>Maneeloy
> > >> >>holding
> > >> >> >centre," Veerachai said.
> > >> >> >     Despite the crackdown on exiled students, Bangkok denied 
>claims
> > >>by
> > >> >> >Yangon that refugee camps inside Thailand were being used as
> > >>terrorist
> > >> >> >bases.
> > >> >> >     "On this issue Thailand has a clear cut policy that we will 
>not
> > >> >>allow
> > >> >> >any groups of terrorists to operate against neigbouring countries
> > >>from
> > >> >> >inside our country," Khachadpai said.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     He said Thailand's policy of sheltering 100,000 refugees 
>along
> > >>the
> > >> >> >Thai-Myanmar border would remain unchanged, but all illegal 
>Myanmar
> > >> >>workers
> > >> >> >would be repatriated.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >     "We have extended permission for 80,000 to 90,000 Myanmar
> > >>workers,
> > >> >>but
> > >> >> >those who are not granted an extension will be prosecuted for
> > >>violating
> > >> >> >immigration laws," he said. In addition, Prime Minister Chuan 
>Leekpai
> > >>has
> > >> >> >instructed police to tighten security at 65 embassies and 10
> > >>consulates
> > >> >>in
> > >> >> >Bangkok. Thai Special Branch Police deputy commissioner Major 
>General
> > >> >> >Yothin Matthayanun said his agency would focus on improving 
>security
> > >>for
> > >> >> >diplomatic missions of neighbouring countries and nations 
>embroiled
> > >>in
> > >> >> >political disputes, such as Indonesia.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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